Curse

Sooty · Nov 16, 2006, 12:12 PM // 12:12

I haven't done much in the way of chest running for a while so i thought i'd have a go. Just got 24, yes 24 consecutive purple margonite chests in a row. No exaggeration. My party members however got plenty of golds. I was several treasure hunter ranks above them so i'm wondering if this is simply a case of the new system simply showing just how horrible it really can be or some kind of chest running anti farm?

BTW the number above may in fact be higher, I never actually got a gold to end that bad run, I simply ran out of keys.

I gotta say this system really takes the fun out of the whole chest thing :/

VorianVader · Nov 16, 2006, 12:25 PM // 12:25

Stupid question but arent chests the same for everyone i.e. if a person opens a chest and its gold for him then it will be gold for everyone?

So if thats still true in NF and your party members are getting golds, you should too.

(Havent done any chest runs with peeps in NF)

Sooty · Nov 16, 2006, 12:31 PM // 12:31

It was until Nightfall came out, now everyone has a chance of getting either a gold or purple when they open a chest. What i'm wondering is whether this chance differs depending on your treasure hunter rank or something because even before when I ran alone I never had 24 in a row that were purple, that's just rediculous.

Gli · Nov 16, 2006, 01:01 PM // 13:01

I'll do you one better. Fifty margonite keys, nothing but purples. That was after getting dozens of golds in Vabbi and a fair amount in Desolation. I haven't been doing chest runs, but I opened every chest I came across while questing, mapping and capping elites. All in all I opened almost 200 in Nightfall so far and it sure feels like I'm suffering from diminishing returns.

Sooty · Nov 16, 2006, 01:08 PM // 13:08

My god i thought I had it bad. Now i'm scared to buy keys :-o

You reckon it's just bad luck or perhaps a glitch somewhere that we should be raising with support? Perhaps it's Margonite chests specifically.

Gli · Nov 16, 2006, 01:25 PM // 13:25

I've played with people who got several golds from Margonite chests. Either I've had an incredible run of bad luck, or chests suffer from an 'anti-farm' nerf nowadays.

Divinus Stella · Nov 16, 2006, 01:29 PM // 13:29

I think anet are making golds rarer, before chests crapped out golds all over the place and most were junk, but now the golds you get are higher quality.

Mr_T_bot · Nov 16, 2006, 01:37 PM // 13:37

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Originally Posted by Sooty

My god i thought I had it bad. Now i'm scared to buy keys :-o

I never bought keys, barely even when in a group going to an area with good chests. Now I have no intention of buying them ever.

Sooty · Nov 16, 2006, 01:37 PM // 13:37

But why are some people getting them at normal rates of say one every 2-4 chests whereas others go for 24 or up to 50 before getting a gold?

Mr_T_bot · Nov 16, 2006, 01:47 PM // 13:47

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Originally Posted by Sooty

But why are some people getting them at normal rates of say one every 2-4 chests whereas others go for 24 or up to 50 before getting a gold?

Same reason drops are poorly proportioned and non-sensical - Arena Net doesn't have a realistic random generator.

PanGammon · Nov 16, 2006, 01:47 PM // 13:47

I honestly get more golds in a 7 hench party then I do with chests. Since i started NF I got about 4 as random drops and 2 from chests. I'm convinced that Vabbi Keys should be changed to Purple Vabbi Keys.......

Gli · Nov 16, 2006, 02:13 PM // 14:13

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Originally Posted by PanGammon

I'm convinced that Vabbi Keys should be changed to Purple Vabbi Keys.......

Now, in my experience, Vabbi keys were the bees knees. I got so many golds for them my head was spinning.

I really think it's a matter of 'chest farm nerf'. Here's why I think it is: I took my time playing through Nightfall. First I made a paragon and played it until well into Kourna. Then I got a bit scared: I had a bit over 300,000 experience and hadn't died yet. I decided not to risk death yet by playing through areas I never played before, and took my main character to Elona to 'scout ahead'. I systematically mapped every area and capped every elite with that character. Either character never opened a chest until Vabbi. What that all boils down to is, I played many many hours without opening any chests at all. When I started to, the results were amazing to start with (Vabbi keys) but as I progressed, the relative number of golds dwindled and dwindled until it hit rock bottom. It sure feels like 'chest nerf' to me.

Then again, maybe my luck is just rotten.

Thalion Galad · Nov 16, 2006, 02:26 PM // 14:26

hi all

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Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

I think anet are making golds rarer, before chests crapped out golds all over the place and most were junk, but now the golds you get are higher quality.

i agree gold items are rarer now, but saying they are higher quality i desagree completly...

200 chest only 1 req 9 a spear the rest of the few golds i get are of very high req and i get more golds from core items then from campain items...
and yes some silly purples better then some gold...strange i think server forgot to dye in gold the letters from some items...

the drop rate are equal in all servers ? cause some ppl say they are happy, others unhappy... dont now ...

mrgoat · Nov 16, 2006, 02:37 PM // 14:37

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Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot

Same reason drops are poorly proportioned and non-sensical - Arena Net doesn't have a realistic random generator.

Actually, a good RNG should sometimes produce long streaks like that. Random != Uniform Distribution. If your random number generator never produces a streak of the same result, your rng is broken.

Jade_Onyx · Nov 16, 2006, 02:42 PM // 14:42

I just find that the gold drops have been put through a blender. I get my perfect casting mods on weapons (like hammers...not something semi useful like a sword or axe) and my 15>50s come from my staffs. I have no idea why anet decided that staffs and wands need 15>50 mods on them, but from my experience, the further you get in the game, the harder it is to get golds from chests (easy kournen->vabbi->desolation->torment hardest). Maybe this is their way of saying dont chest run in the end game areas?

Bankai · Nov 16, 2006, 02:52 PM // 14:52

Maybe it's the fact that you're farming chests. So far I've been having a handful of keys with me while travelling through desolation/realm of torment, and I've only gotten a few purples. A few golds were pretty bad, but I also got some quite good ones.

MDeshame · Nov 16, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08

207 keys from Vabbi onwards, no chests opened prior to Vabbi keys. 189 purples in a row, 1 gold drop (req 12 non-max poor mods), 10 purples in a row, 1 gold drop (req 10, near max, pitiful mods), rest purple. I'd say that constitues a pretty shitty RNG.

I got more gold drops from killing than from opening chests. Regardless, unless my luck is abmismal, the weapons are shite, the req are way to high, there appears to only be 3 skins that drop and it appears that there are only 5 weapons types.

Kyosuke · Nov 16, 2006, 03:35 PM // 15:35

I average about 1 or 5 on Gold vs. Purples... Most golds though are req. 12/13... and alo of the times the mods aren't even maxed out, I open Ancient Elonian and Margonite chests... not so good really. I have found some decent stuff, but when I do get a req. 9 it's not even inscribable sometimes.... It has mods that aren't max and you can't even throw a 15^50 on there... now that's just messed up

Bane of Worlds · Nov 16, 2006, 03:40 PM // 15:40

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Originally Posted by PanGammon

I honestly get more golds in a 7 hench party then I do with chests. Since i started NF I got about 4 as random drops and 2 from chests. I'm convinced that Vabbi Keys should be changed to Purple Vabbi Keys.......

I'm in the same situation like you then...I get more golds from partying with heroes and henchies than getting golds from chests while chest running, questing N opening, and exploring N opening...

I'm just unlucky I guess...

---Follower of Grenth

chessyang · Nov 16, 2006, 05:13 PM // 17:13

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Originally Posted by Sooty

My god i thought I had it bad. Now i'm scared to buy keys

naw just wait for the "Double your Gold Drops" Just like the factions weekend where your chance of getting a gold was 2x better. it's gonna happen. So save your keys for that weekend.

running this at the moment. love doing 200dmg =)
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10076940

but IMO I enjoy the Vibbian chest more then Margonite.